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Deposits and withdrawals with local methods

Basics: how a trade and an account work3 min read
What you learn in 3 minutesThis lesson shows how money moves between a Philippine bank or GCash account and a broker account, and why the way in usually decides the way out.

You will see the three legs of a deposit and a withdrawal, what each leg can cost in pesos, and how a small EUR/USD position turns into a peso figure on your statement.

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A schematic diagram of one deposit and one withdrawal, each split into three legs: from your GCash or bank account, through the broker's payment channel, and into or out of the trading account, with the time and possible fee marked on each leg.

The route your money takes before it reaches the broker

Look at the chart on this page. It shows four boxes in a row. The first box is your GCash account or your bank account. The second box is the payment provider that moves the money. The third box is the broker's bank. The fourth box is your trading account. Money passes through every box in that order.

The first leg is the one you control. You open your banking app or GCash and send pesos to the payment details the broker gives you. That leg takes minutes with GCash and usually a few hours with a bank transfer. The broker does not see the money yet. Only the payment provider sees it.

The second leg is the payment provider's job. It collects the pesos and passes them to the broker's bank. This leg can take one working day, sometimes two. The third leg is the broker's job. It receives the pesos, checks that the sender name matches the account name, converts the money into the account currency, and credits your trading account. This leg can take a few hours or one working day. The total time from your tap to your account is the sum of the three legs.

Why the way out follows the way in

The chart also shows the withdrawal route. It runs in reverse. The broker sends money back through the same payment provider that brought it in. If you deposited by GCash, the broker sends to GCash. If you deposited by bank transfer, the broker sends to the same bank account. This rule is not a broker's whim. It comes from anti-money-laundering rules that the SEC Philippines and other regulators expect brokers to follow.

The rule has a limit. Most brokers return money the same way only up to the amount you deposited. Suppose you deposit ₱20,000 by bank transfer, trade, and your account grows to ₱25,000. The broker can send ₱20,000 back to your bank account. The extra ₱5,000 may go by a different method, such as a bank transfer to a different account or a wallet, depending on what the broker allows. Each broker sets its own rule for the extra amount. Check the funding page for the exact wording.

The name on the payment account must match the name on the trading account. If your GCash account is in your mother's name and your trading account is in your name, the deposit may be rejected or held. The same applies on the way out. A withdrawal to an account with a different name is usually blocked. This is why the lesson says to keep the receipt. The receipt shows the sender name, the amount, and the reference number. Support teams ask for it first because it lets them trace the payment.

What each leg can cost in pesos

Fees appear at different points. GCash charges a send fee. The page example uses ₱50 for a ₱10,000 send. That fee is taken by GCash before the money leaves your wallet. Your bank may charge a transfer fee for a bank deposit. The amount varies by bank and by account type. Some banks charge nothing for online transfers. Others charge a fixed fee. The broker may charge a deposit fee, but many brokers do not. The broker's fee schedule lists what it charges.

The withdrawal side has its own fees. The broker may charge a withdrawal fee. The payment provider may charge a receiving fee. Your bank may charge an incoming transfer fee. These fees are separate from the exchange rate. The exchange rate is the price at which the broker converts pesos into the account currency or back. The broker sets its own rate. That rate is usually different from the rate you see on a news site. The difference is a cost, even when it is not called a fee.

Add the fees together before you send money. A ₱10,000 deposit with a ₱50 GCash fee and a broker conversion spread of 0.5 per cent costs about ₱50 plus about ₱50, or about ₱100 in total. The exact figure depends on the broker's rate on the day. A withdrawal of ₱10,000 with a ₱100 broker fee and a ₱25 bank fee costs about ₱125. These numbers are examples. Your own costs depend on the methods you use and the broker's current schedule.

One deposit and one withdrawal of ₱10,000

StepAmountNote
Deposit sent from GCash₱10,000the amount leaving your GCash balance
Possible GCash sending feevariesGCash sets this; it changes over time and by account type
Amount credited to the trading account₱10,000 minus any feethe broker converts to the account currency at its own rate
Time for the deposit to arriveusually minutes to one working dayvaries by broker and by the hour you send it
Withdrawal requested back to GCashthe same route as the depositmost brokers return funds the way they came
Time for the withdrawal to arriveusually one to five working daysvaries by broker and by cut-off times
One pip on one standard lot of EUR/USD10 units of the quote currency100,000 x 0.0001, then converted at the current rate
EUR/USD reference price in this lessonaround 1.0850used only to show how a pip is calculated

The broker may round the converted amount, charge a withdrawal fee, or apply its own exchange rate on top. Check the fee schedule on the broker's own page before sending money.

Doing it once, step by step

Follow these steps once, in order, before you send any money. They turn the chart into a checklist you can keep.

  1. 01

    Open the broker's funding page

    Find the page that lists deposit and withdrawal methods. Note which methods are available for the Philippines. GCash and bank transfer are common. Write down the fees for each method. Write down the cut-off time for each method. A cut-off is the latest time of day the broker processes a request.

  2. 02

    Check the name on your payment account

    Look at the name on your GCash account or bank account. It must match the name on your trading account. If it does not, fix it before you deposit. A mismatch can delay or block both deposits and withdrawals. This check takes one minute and saves days.

  3. 03

    Send a small test deposit

    Send a small amount first, such as ₱1,000. Use the method you plan to use later. Keep the receipt or reference number. Watch how long each leg takes. The chart shows three legs. Time each one so you know what to expect.

  4. 04

    Confirm the amount that arrives

    Check your trading account after the deposit. Compare the amount that left your wallet with the amount that arrived. The difference is the total cost of that deposit. Write it down. This figure is your own cost, not an example from a page.

  5. 05

    Request a small withdrawal

    After you have traded, request a small withdrawal. Use the same method you used to deposit. Note the day and time you requested it. Note the day the money arrives. The difference is your withdrawal time. Check the fee that was taken.

  6. 06

    Keep every receipt

    Store each receipt and reference number in one place. A note on your phone or a folder in your email works. If a payment is delayed, support will ask for the reference number first. Without it, the trace takes longer. With it, the support team can find the payment quickly.

The mistake most people make here

A common mistake is to deposit with one method and expect to withdraw with a different one, such as sending by bank transfer and asking for GCash on the way out. Most brokers send the money back the way it arrived, at least up to the amount deposited, because they must match the name on the account. Before the first deposit, read the broker's funding page and note the methods it accepts, the fees, and the cut-off times. Keep the receipt or reference number for every transfer, because it is the first thing a support team asks for when a payment is delayed.

Check yourself

A deposit of ₱10,000 is sent by GCash. The broker charges no deposit fee, but GCash charges ₱50 to send. How much reaches the trading account before any conversion?

₱10,000 minus ₱50 equals ₱9,950. The broker then converts that amount into the account currency at its own rate.

One pip on one standard lot of EUR/USD is 10 units of the quote currency. If the quote currency is the US dollar and the rate used for conversion is 1.0850, what is one pip worth in pesos before conversion?

One pip is 10 US dollars. At 1.0850, 10 divided by 1.0850 is about 9.22, so one pip is about 9.22 units of the quote currency converted at that rate. The peso figure depends on the peso-to-dollar rate your broker uses.

A withdrawal of ₱5,000 is requested on a Friday afternoon. The broker's cut-off has passed and it processes on the next working day, then the bank takes two more working days. When does the money arrive?

The request is processed on the next working day and the bank adds two working days, so the money arrives about three working days after the request. Exact timing varies by broker and by bank.

Questions that come up next

How long does a GCash deposit take to reach the broker?

The first leg is quick. GCash usually moves the pesos in minutes. The second leg, from the payment provider to the broker's bank, can take one working day, sometimes two. The third leg, from the broker's bank to your trading account, can take a few hours or one working day. Add the legs together to get the total time.

What fees do I pay when I deposit and withdraw?

Fees come from different places. GCash or your bank may charge a sending fee. The broker may charge a deposit fee, a withdrawal fee, or both. The broker may also apply its own exchange rate when it converts pesos into the account currency. Fee schedules differ between brokers, so check the broker's funding page before you send money.

Can I withdraw to a different GCash number or bank account?

Usually no, at least up to the amount you deposited. The broker sends money back through the same provider that brought it in. The name on the payment account must match the name on the trading account. A withdrawal to a different name is normally blocked. Some brokers allow the extra profit above your deposit to go by another method, but each broker sets its own rule.

Why did my deposit get held or rejected?

The most common reason is a name mismatch. If the GCash account or bank account is in someone else's name, the broker may hold or reject the deposit. Another reason is a missing reference number. The broker uses the reference to match the payment to your account. Keep the receipt and send the reference to support if the deposit is delayed.

What exchange rate does the broker use when I deposit pesos?

The broker converts your pesos into the account currency at its own rate. That rate is set by the broker and can include a margin. It is not always the same as the rate you see on a news site. The rate can change during the day. Check the broker's funding page for how it sets the conversion rate.

What happens if I request a withdrawal on a Friday afternoon?

If the broker's cut-off has passed, it processes the request on the next working day. The bank then adds its own working days. In the example, the money arrives about three working days after the request. Exact timing varies by broker and by bank. Weekends and public holidays are not working days.

In the Philippines

Currency
The peso, written ₱ (PHP)
Payment methods used in this lesson
GCash and bank transfer
Regulator named in this course
SEC Philippines
Instrument used in examples
EUR/USD, around 1.0850
Fees and timing
These vary between brokers and between payment providers, so check the broker's own funding page

The words used on this page

payment provider
A company that moves money between you and the broker. GCash is one example. It takes the pesos from your account and passes them to the broker's bank.
working day
A day when banks and payment providers are open for business. Saturdays, Sundays and public holidays are not working days. A request made after the cut-off on a Friday is processed on the next working day.
cut-off
The time of day after which a request is treated as if it arrived the next working day. If you request a withdrawal after the cut-off, it waits until the next working day to be processed.
anti-money-laundering rules
Rules that require brokers to check where money comes from and where it goes. They are set by regulators such as the SEC Philippines. These rules are why a withdrawal usually has to go back the way the deposit came.
account currency
The currency your trading account is held in. If your account is in US dollars, the broker converts your pesos into US dollars before crediting the account. The conversion uses the broker's own rate.

What to take away

  • A deposit and a withdrawal each have three legs: you to the provider, the provider to the broker's bank, and the broker's bank to your account.
  • The way out follows the way in, because the broker must match the name on the payment account to the name on the trading account.
  • Fees and exchange rates come from the provider, the broker, or both, and they differ between brokers.
  • Keep every receipt and reference number, and check the broker's funding page before sending money.
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